Certain thoughts are better left unthunk
– Woody Allen
I have a really bad idea. If I follow it through, I’m on a hiding to nothing.
Yet it’s fair and right. And having thunk it, I can’t unthunk it.
It concerns my wife and Norwich City. She’s willingly proofread all of my 100-odd articles for this site – and given nothing but constructive and supportive feedback, even when she has a different view of things.
So it’s right and proper that some of her views should get an airing here.
The danger is obvious. Seeing her thoughts, many readers will no doubt conclude that she talks more sense than her husband. Some will probably think it with regret; one or two of our regular commenters will, I suspect, say it with relish.
For a start, she reserves judgement. I sometimes get excited at City’s signings (e.g. Jordan Rhodes and Ben Marshall). As I wax lyrical about their virtues, she’ll tell me to stop talking them up – she’ll decide for herself when she sees them actually perform.
I guess I can’t complain on that one.
Barbara’s decidedly not a fan of tiki-taka football. She’s never shared my enjoyment of watching Spain play, and in particular doesn’t appreciate The Canaries doing it.
I’ve tried to explain my view that passing across the back is OK; the key, and what we failed to do last year, is to inject pace when the ball is moved into midfield. If it’s good enough for Man City it should be good enough for us, and I’m sure Daniel Farke is working on it.
She’ll watch, but I can tell she’s not convinced. Playing it around at the back, it seems to her, simply gives the opposition time to set themselves up as they wish. I suspect she may not be alone.
If a passing culture is one of my hobbyhorses, then combination play is one of hers. She constantly refers to the example Gary Neville and David Beckham on the right of United’s great teams under Sir Alex; players who developed an almost telepathic understanding of each other’s game.
I can’t deny that kind of thing would be good to see at Norwich. Interestingly, we might just see one this season. Ben Marshall played 100 games with Jordan Rhodes during his goal-rich years at Blackburn. Apparently, they’re close friends as well as instinctive colleagues.
Some of our differences are style rather than substance. As I once mentioned on this forum, my inclination after a bad City performance and result is to crawl off and sulk. The last thing I want is to listen to the rants and prejudices that – together with the odd bit of good analysis – characterize Canarycall.
Barbara gets angry, and wants to take in the full measure of Canarycall vitriol. For her, my skulking away represents a cop-out.
On many points I’ll concede there’s some merit in Barbara’s view. On a couple, though, I’m standing my ground. I don’t think she properly appreciated Wes, dwelling too much on his (undoubted) flaws and not enough on the magic.
Similarly – perhaps it all goes back to tiki-taka – I haven’t yet persuaded her that Moritz Leitner is a genuine class player and a sensational signing for us.
Barbara is a true City fan but didn’t enjoy the football served up at Carrow Road last season. She’s made it clear she’ll give them a chance this season – but if the fare is no more inspiring and successful than last time, she can think of better ways to spend her Saturdays.
If we’re not performing well by December, then, there may be a space for someone wanting a lift to Norwich once a fortnight from the Watford area….
Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that. After all, she finds my driving (and presumably my thoughts on the match to come) very conducive to a good sleep.
Though she has a reasonable wait-and-see view, at least Barbara’s impressed at the focus of our transfer activity on attacking players. As well as Hernandez, who’ll seem like a new signing, she’s open-minded to see what Buendia, Marshall, Pukki and Rhodes can bring to our play.
Me too. Whatever happens in defence and midfield this coming season, it’s not rocket science to say that we need to see City scoring more goals. Hopefully our new strikers are on board with what’s needed, and won’t require the succinct guidance Bill Shankly once gave to one of his:
If you aren’t sure what to do with the ball, son, just stick it in the net and we’ll discuss your opinions afterwards.
I love your wife. She’s right. You’re wrong. Twas ever thus.
Ain’t it the truth?
I’m on Team Barbara!
The torch has passed in Chez Lewis!
Steady on, there!
I have very similar conversations with my old man. His view is that it looks like Norwich are being very sporting by giving the opposition time to get themselves sorted before we launch any kind of attack. I’m very pro passing football, so I like to see our players knock it around and try to move players out of position and create space, and knock it backwards and try again if it isn’t working.
It’s interesting when we’ve scored, quite often, because he will say it happened because we put a ball into the box, and I will say we only had a decent opportunity to do so because of some decent passing prior to that. Each of us rolls our eyes at the other and we get on with watching the rest of the match and having the same debate ad nauseum.
Jorge Valdano wrote some brilliant stuff on Russia 2018 for the Guardian and his latest offering talks about differing styles of play, with the sharpness and vision I’ve been used to reading these past few weeks. If you haven’t seen it, have a look: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jul/16/russia-2018-claustrophobic-football-crowded-tiki-taka-world-cup
It’s all right Stewart, we value your views too – but don’t mind Barbara’s being inserted as well from time to time! I like her point about the combination play. It would be great if we could see more of that this season. Great as Maddison was last season, except for the extremely brief time Pritchard was on the pitch with him that didn’t really happen much and was one of the problems we had. If it could happen more this time round in different parts of the pitch and particular at the top end, it would make a great difference.
Stewart, I’m with you as far as Canarycall goes, and not only when we lose. It’s become too much the Rob Butler show – he likes the sound of his own voice too much, and I frequently switch it off.
As far as tikka-taka goes, it has its place, as does the long ball game and quick movement forward. The skill is judging which to use at any one time and against which opponents. If we could only get that right, we’d be playing Champions League, now Championship.
Hi Stewart great read and wouldn’t it be a dull old world if we all agreed on how things should be done.
In my house we have my wife a true Man U supporter then my 3 sons all Spurs and yours truely a city supporter.
so we never agrre much on how the game should be played and at the moment the Jose word is lower than the Ipswich due to his as my wife calls it unstyle football she even calls for AF to come out of retirement.
If Farke can combine a little of his preferred style with some fast forward play then I think most people will be happy.
Why not get your wife to do a guest blogg????
“They’re coming to get you Barbara”
I assumed that Barbara wrote everything anyway.
Barbara says I’m to deny that….
Please tell me Barbara is not on Twitter, Stew ;(
If she is, I very quickly need to delete my Leitner/barometer of a knowledgeable football fan tweet !
It was a fine tweet, Gary.
Hear, hear
Great Rumours today on newsnow Bolton and Ipswich are rivaling Wigan for Wildshut now that would be a turn up if he went there on a permanent transfer
I like Barbara, tikka taka football, for the most part, is dull, boring and oh so slow and Hoolahan was overrated …. be more like Barbara, let Barbara write a regular column.
Good job your wife and mine never really got around to discussing Wes. I’m not risking showing Sarah your bracketed adjective about his ‘flaws’.
Indeed – it could be the end of a beautiful friendship