The Villa game should be a lesson to us in what our short to medium-term future might hold.
For those who don’t know, that was a team that Dean Smith built. Jacob Ramsey exemplified the qualities of a wide player in 4-3-3 and what a fabulous goal he scored. There is currently no player in our squad capable of scoring that goal.
However, a goal like that perhaps explains why we’ve seen early chances given to Przemysław Placheta by Smith and Shakespeare (S&S) because he at least has the running metrics absent in more technically talented players like Todd Cantwell or Kieran Dowell. A technically improved and more confident Placheta could at least match that pace and directness.
S&S are also responsible for the other star players of Villa on the night. Pound for pound, they built that Villa squad to mirror the overall quality of top teams like Liverpool. Sure, Villa spent a lot of money, but the value for money in the modern transfer market shouldn’t be sniffed at. Matty Cash and Matt Targett, Ezri Konsa, John McGinn, Ashley Young, Tyrone Mings… Steven Gerrard has inherited a team of real quality and it is a testament to what S&S know is required of players at this level.
The lesson is that you don’t need to match quality, only match output….. it is about achieving effectiveness in a certain position. For example, Targett and Cash bring identical attributes as Andy Robertson and Trent Alexander Arnold, but within a viable budget. All aforementioned fullbacks ensure a tactical brief is fulfilled. At Liverpool, you get world beaters but Villa have fullbacks capable in any game in the Premier League.
Do Mathias Normann and Billy Gilmour fulfill the tactical need that Alex Tettey and Mario Vrancic completed? Does Dowell enable transitional play like Marco Stieperman could? Transposing these concepts into the budget at Norwich has always been paramount in my thinking. It is almost about ratios – you don’t need world beaters but you do need round pegs in round holes.
I believe that S&S will wisely apply our budget to appropriate, effective, signings in the future.
Speaking of round pegs, Jacob Lungi Sorensen. I think we have all been united believing in Sorensen’s abilities. I love the guy, but my opinion has always been that he is a player that needs to ‘face’ play. He reads the game superbly and is so calm on the ball. I don’t believe, at this level, he can establish himself in centre mid or as a fullback but when he faces the ball the lad is a revelation.
I always said I’d prefer him on the left of a centre-back grouping and his performance against Ronaldo confirmed it. Lungi was absolutely brilliant. Partner that lad with Grant Hanley and City have a defensive partnership sustainable even in the Premier League. A natural left and right-footed pairing.
Elsewhere, Kenny McLean is also proving his worth. The incontestable quality for midfielders within the budget confines of a club like NCFC are the running metrics and other physical markers. Even in the modern game, I believe Gary Holt would still make the grade, unlike Lukas Rupp and Gilmour who blow hot and cold every time they play.
McLean is so fundamental to this team because he is literally the only midfielder with stamina and reliability. Sure, Normann is a better technical player, Gilmour too, but McLean never ever shirks a challenge and he is effective in what he does.
As most folk at MFW agreed during the summer, McLean is a character who is fundamental to the operation, he sets an example, he is a leader. S&S will know enough, they will want to find the right mix around him in midfield, but I think they over-estimate his abilities when in recent games when they’ve advanced Kenny as a #10, which is technically beyond him, in my opinion.
It has also been well-documented about our frankly impotent attack, and that is where I see the greatest challenge to S&S. I was adamant early in the season that 4-3-3 was inappropriate to the NCFC squad, and I retain that opinion.
Primarily, I said then and I reiterate now, Teemu Pukki is not the ideal foil for a three-man attacking group. I’d argue the case for him playing a bit wider or deeper, playing off of a physical target-man, provided that the subtleties of the formation allowed him to still be on the shoulder of his defender and that he be central enough to be a direct threat.
But in a 4-3-3, I don’t see that Norwich have the quality in wide areas to exploit Pukki’s threat. Obviously, we no longer have Emi Buendia and we cannot afford a like-for-like replacement either, but nor should we. A #10, within City’s budget is easy to defend against. Elias Chair at QPR looks brilliant, but I think City need an alternative strategy (in the long term) to supply Pukki.
A #10 comes with other tactical impositions, it enforces other qualities into the starting 11, and the bottom line is that City don’t have those players.
Todd Cantwell is also worthy of a debate. I’m amazed at his performances recently, which have not been anywhere near good enough. We concluded in the summer that in a 4-3-3. Cantwell is not a winger and he looks hopeless in this formation. Physically, I’m also a bit confused – he sprints so much slower than he did two years ago, he seems to have lost muscle mass and his shots are weaker.
This doesn’t appear to be just about match sharpness, there appears to be something restricting him and I’m afraid that the consequence is that he is not presently suitable. On the right of the three, only Josh Sargent has proven himself so far, but clearly there are fair question marks over his end product although I am confident he will evolve into a player Norwich need.
Drawing conclusions to all of this, with 4-3-3, I still see the same limits that I saw previously, and with this squad those limits are profound. However, S&S have made us far more tactically capable and the team is far more resolute even if the results are not good enough.
Maybe there will be a big revolution in January but to play 4-3-3 effectively, I think too many changes are required for it to be viable.
Just review that Villa performance on Tuesday… Sure, you can fairly compare qualities in Douglas Luiz and Matheus Normann, but City simply don’t have the wider midfielders to compare with Ashley Young or John McGinn. McLean, the stalwart at NCFC, can’t play like that, and to compare academy products like Cantwell to Jacob Ramsey is… incomparable.
You can’t even compare the athletic qualities of our team with other relegation rivals: Nathan Redmond or Cantwell? Saint-Maximim? Maxwell Cornet or Conor Gallagher, even Bryan Mbuemo is twice the athlete.
This isn’t about fitness levels, it’s about pace and power appropriate to a tactical position in a base formation. 4-3-3 didn’t suit our players in the summer, it still doesn’t. Gilmour and Cantwell don’t go into the same XI, and neither gets the best from Pukki.
I think the way NCFC score more goals only comes from adding a striker to the mix alongside Pukki. We can’t reinvent the attacking midfield players because we blew the budget that way this summer. We can’t replace Buendia in 4-2-3-1 and we certainly can’t drop Pukki to try something different because Idah and Sargent are not good enough.
It is hard to tinker the midfield without forfeiting McLean or Normann and if we could unearth the perfect player to best merge Normann and McLean, then that player probably isn’t Gilmour (and it certainly isn’t Pierre Lees-Melou or Rupp).
Dimitris Giannoulis was sensational against Man Utd but we lack a left-footer ahead of him, let alone two others needed in a 4-3-3. Brandon Williams, in my mind, naturally moves to the right if we cash in on the brilliant performances from Max Aarons, but in all honesty, do we even have a right-footed attacking player of good enough standard ahead of either?
Is Williams as good as Max? Nope, but would he do a good enough job if he switched flanks? Yes.
Would selling Max then enable signing a player to complement Pukki and another to extract the best balance with McLean in midfield, given the likelihood of Normann staying beyond the summer?
Absolutely. I trust S&S to make these calls when I’ve not trusted Stuart Webber to make them on behalf of Daniel Farke previously.
Effectiveness in position, not necessarily brilliance in a position. Round pegs in round holes.
This is the challenge to S&S in January and beyond, and what we end up settling with as a base formation will be based around what is financially viable.
Partnering Pukki, forfeiting attacking midfielders, exploiting the different qualities of Normann and or McLean. Pairing Hanley with a better left-footer.
Doubling up on Gianoullis to extract his offensive instincts.
It’s all about answering these questions with the fewest possible signings… quality over quantity.
The self-funding model at our club is viable with S&S as long as they are left to pick their own players. Their appointment is a subtle evolution in the sporting director/head coach model but it is the one where I expect Norwich to fulfill that Premier League ambition… but it might not be this time around.
I’d love to talk through any tactical opinions in your comments.
Where do you get the idea that Sorensen is a natural left footer? When he played at left back, every time he advanced up the wing, he turned inside to deliver a pass with his right foot. If he did use his left, it was to play a simple short ball to the centre half. I can’t remember him going outside a full back to get a cross in with his left. Having said that, he does seem to have a bit more use of his left than Williams.
Tend to agree, Jim. I think you’ll find he’s right-footed, Mike.
That might be, but he looks equally capable on the left as he does on the right, when we already have predominantly right footed defensive players. The best thing about him as a fullback last season was his 1v1 defending which was extraordinary. I don’t recall anyone getting past him.
I never queried his defensive capabilities, just the fact that Mike Taylor referred to him and Grant Hanley as a natural left and right footed partnership. He’s clearly right footed.
And as a centre back, as opposed to a leftback, he doesn’t need to cut back inside and use his right foot.
No, but nor does Hanley when he has played on the left of the central defensive pair, or Omabamidele, or any other right footer playing on the left. It’s. Still not a “natural pairing” as is the case with say Hanley and Gibson.
I agree with all your points above. I just don’t think we have the quality to go 4-3-3.
As a hockey coach I’ve often tried to work formations with 3 at the back. Not only does it provide a player higher up, as most opposition teams play an iteration of 4–3-3, it does ask questions of them.
I think having a ‘base’ (to quote Farke) of 3 is our way forward and it’s with that formation, or variant of, that we have looked most effective this season.
3 CBs allows a less defensively minded Gianolluis, or a natural right footer like Williams, to have more licence going forward. Ditto Max on the right.
Kabak in the centre of that 3 then has licence to push forward if needed and become a deep CM.
Inside channels in midfield are now easier to reach due to the natural width a back 3 provides and at times I’ve seen Smith getting his back 3 to exploit this.
The big question mark, is do you play 3 in midfield as a defensive unit, or do you push one up to create an attacking 3. Ie a ‘Rupp’ or a ‘Dowell’ .
I’d favour exploring;
3-2-3-2 formation which a lot of continental hockey teams play.
3 x CBSs.
2 x holding midfielders – defending the inner Channels between centre backs
3 attacking players, left centre and right (wide players may need to defend and create a midfield 4 at times though)
2 strikers
So something like;
Hanley, Kabak, Gibson
Normann and Rupp
Rashica Dowell Placheta
Pukki Hugill
Could turn Gianoullis/ Aaron’s into those higher wider players. McLean could play defensively or behind the front 2. Lots of options. Lungi could play CB or CDM.
And I’d recall Hugill from loan as a target man for Pukki.
We don’t have the quality of players for 4-3-3 so will be interesting to see what Smith comes up with!
Interesting article. The big thing for me which you haven’t mentioned is where do the wingers Tzolis and Rashica fit in – our record signings?! If as you say we seek to sell Max and buy a strike partner for Pukki in Jan there can be no place for these guys either (as well as CAMs cantwell and dowell). I don’t think smith will do that in the short/medium term as we have so many attacking midfielders in the squad they have to be playing in a system that uses them.
That’s precisely the problem. The players we spent big money are not ready and they were brought into a squad where they were not really suitable. They are ideal 4-2-3-1 players…. Only we were without Skipp and Buendia to made that system work. Those players don’t really fit with Pukki. I did an article on these mid-matches last week called Pandora’s Box. I think, at least in 3-4-2-1, you could squeeze one of them in…. But Rashica and Sarjent aside, nobody in wide or central attacking births are capable at this level, not yet.
Blimey, isn’t football supposed to be a simple game!!
Hi Dan
I really respect guys who can analyse tactics to this extent cos I sure can’t.
When I played Sunday League the rules for me as the LB were simple:
. If you don’t train on a Tuesday without a good excuse you won’t play on Sunday.
. Only the LB or RB is allow to go up set for pieces – never both of you together.
. If in doubt kick it out.
. Don’t get too behind with your subs!!!
Oh my, how the times have changed 🙂
If you start with a blank canvass, plenty of dosh and adequate time you can look at what’s available to meet the style of play you think will succeed. Which is all very nice but we are where we are, no blank canvass little dosh or time. I‘m sure Deano will do his best this season but it‘ll next season before we see any big changes. We just have to cut him some slack and not become too dispondant.
I think Mike this was Daniel Farke’s problem right from the start of the season.
What formation to play and what formation suits the players bought in the summer.
And then covid really hit and ruined the coach’s pre-season. That messed up considerably his ability to experiment. Doing it against Manchester City and Liverpool was never going to work.
From the outside the summer signings seem a bit of a mess but I am sure thought and planning went into every signing. (Except for me signing too many under 21’s)
Daniel who had often been accused of having no plan B went through a succession of plans in the first few games but none of these cunning plans I’m afraid worked too well.
He ended up with a team where Cantwell and Dowell were hard to fit in. And both had ended the previous Championship winning season in very good form.
I am sure Daniel and Stuart’s intention was obviously to make the team stronger but by the time we got to Watford (H), whether it was because confidence had been destroyed in the preceding four consecutive losses or something more permanent.
Whatever it was we have looked a pale shadow of that Championship winning team.
And the malaise, apart from a few games, has been there ever since. Can anyone honestly say this is as good a team as the team that smashed seven past Huddersfield ?
I know we are playing against teams way superior to a Huddersfield but I am sure that team would be competitive against most of the bottom half of the EPL.
Buendia and Skipp have been missed as much or even more than most of us feared.
I can’t agree that Josh Sargent is at this moment a Premier League player, he may well develop into one, but he seems off the pace and totally lacks confidence in front of goal.
But it is not just Josh. Kenny McClean as you say our mainstay for many a season has himself had poor games this season, it is fair to say interspersed with some good ones. Is Max playing as well as our last EPL season ?
And Todd ? whatever has gone on there, and you are correct Mike he looks like he has lost physicality and fitness.
And whatever our midfield mix it just doesn’t seem to work.
Really only Normann to me looks the part. And he has been playing with a injury.
Kabak and Rashica have shown glimpses of ability and Gilmour is an enigma. What is his position ?
But if you have a squad of mostly Championship players it doesn’t matter if you play 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 the bottom line is you still end up with a Championship squad.
I agree with you 100%
Quality over quantity in January and it will be round pegs before anything else…. And whomever we get will need to provide continuity because if we are relegated, a rebuild needs to consider the age of Pukki and Krul and the likelihood of younger players getting bored and wanting to move on elsewhere before we are back, at the earliest, in 2 years.
I trust the big rebuild that you mention will come and I trust S&S will choose a baseline for the squad and a formation that will readily work after promotion, something I never expected from 4-2-3-1 (with the players we had). Thanks for the comment.
With you all the way, Martin. I started as a striker when a kid, and gradually moved backwards. “Play the way you’re facing”, “shoot on sight”, “pass to a better placed team-mate”, “beware of passbacks to the goalie”, “respect the ref”, and above all, “don’t try a 40 yard pass when a 10 yard one is easier” ! Not difficult was it…
I was a striker at school myself until 18 but not that skilful – all I really had was pace and as soon as I had the first of my ankle breaks that pace never returned. Fear, probably.
The only way I could get a game in my Sunday side was as a right-footed left back – our RB was really very, very good.
Don’t think I’d be a threat to Brandon Williams but sometimes I understand exactly why he does what he does when he does it!
Small world 🙂