It’s part of local folklore that back in the day Norwich had something which few other cities possessed, and that was that the City Walls contained within their geography a church for every week of the year and, possibly better still, a pub for every single day of the year.
This of course would have proved very handy as the concept of modern hen and stag parties, which originated around the time Queen Victoria came to the throne in a rush of crinoline and high morality, took off from their hedonistic runway.
Think about it: Friday night to go wild in the den of iniquity of your choice, Saturday to suffer the ceremony itself, and a huge choice of churches covering most variations on Christianity to indulge in a little penitence on the Sunday. What was not to like?
Moving some 100 years forward we found ourselves at a stage where a legal and social revolution came along from which there was no turning back.
I am not talking about the advent of Elvis soon to be followed by The Beatles here, although I easily could be given that the year in question was 1960.
The Conservative Government of the time, led by Harold Macmillan, passed a bill in Parliament in September 1960, and on January 1, 1961, it became legal to bet in the UK – in suitably licensed premises which instantly became known to the world and his greyhound as betting shops. The die was cast.
Not only did this give the Tories a cash grab [I was tempted to make a social comment at this point, but thought better of it!] in terms of a brand new levy known in common parlance as betting tax, it also caused a seismic change to the way people placed their bets in this country.
Gone overnight was the beloved pub as the key cog in the transmission unit.
When Alexandrina Victoria of Saxe Coburg was, erm, consorting with her Prince Consort Albert and for the 100 or so years that followed, bookmakers would set up base in a friendly pub, hire runners to tell what the odds were at any given hour, collect bets and pay off the winners, while lookouts warned about the presence of policemen, who were in any case often reluctant to enforce the law or were open to taking a small bribe for looking the other way!
The role of the 1950s bookie’s runner was immortalised by George Cole as Flash Harry in the contemporaneous St Trinian’s series of British films. George later went on to play another important role of that type, this time as Harry’s half-brother Arthur Daley in the incomparable TV series Minder***
When city streets were packed with terraced houses there seemed to be a pub on most street corners, and suddenly, very often in close proximity to these working-class boozers, up sprung the betting shop where all that had gone before became unnecessary and business was done on these premises, not the pub. But very often the two remained interminably linked as there was surely nowhere better to study form and see what your mates had picked as the right nag to pile in on.
The horse they told you they had backed was invariably the one that they hadn’t, of course.
I briefly had a sixth-form holiday job as a Saturday boy in a long-gone bookie on London’s Commercial Road, FW Jordan & Sons, Licensed Turf Accountants. It was actually owned by a Spanish guy called Paco, and his surname most certainly wasn’t Jordan any more than his dad was called Frank.
Working for Paco had a purpose though as the aura of that “shop” successfully managed to put me off gambling for life.
The names William Hill and Joe Coral quickly became known in London, then across the South, and finally humongous great swathes of the entire UK.
This brings me, at last some of you might understandably say, to the point.
Although its core value of maximising profit continues to be at the very heart of the industry, the rise of the Internet has ensured that the gambling scene has gone through the roof as so many global players do battle for what would seem like a bottomless pit of market share.
Betting firms associating themselves with football is no longer a new thing and I’m sure you good MFW readers are all too aware that Norwich City have not escaped the wrath of the moral majority on occasion.
The obvious, in-your-face side of this comes with the shirt logo.
The other day I received my regular weekly bulletin from Celtic, who confirmed that if I wanted to buy a home, away, or even third replica shirt I could choose one without the sponsor’s logo. Same shirt, same exorbitant cost – okay, I realise and appreciate that the Bhoys charge the going rate for the product, certainly no more than any of their rivals, anyway.
This practice is not new – Celtic have done it before and one of the London clubs – I think perhaps West Ham but I’m not certain – tried it a while back too. Watford may very well also be joining in this season.
In this case, it is one of our old acquaintances, DafaBet, who will suffer from the few Hoops tops that are sold sans logo. It’s worthy of note that they appear to accept this arrangement without batting [or is that betting?] an eyelid.
I have a Celtic hoodie that features a large Adidas logo – as manufacturers of all Celtic kit, that is just fine by me. The DafaBet signage doesn’t feature but I would still have bought the garment if I did, just as I wasn’t deterred from buying the Norwich City top I’m pictured in this article wearing while pretending to study the form of the gee-gees.
I might not be a fan of betting, but if that’s how you get your kicks, I’ve no lofty moralistic desire to dissuade you. I might think it is folly, and not always harmless to somebody with an addictive personality to indulge in [I should know, I have that type of personality and must fight very hard to keep it in check sometimes], but it’s not really a matter for me to get on my high horse about.
But then things moved on a little in terms of the question: where should a team draw a line in the sand simply say to a prospective sponsor: NO!
Yes, I do mean BK8, the company who a couple of years ago were on the verge of having their logo machined in order to pass it on to Errea, as our kit manufacturer was then, to become prominently installed on our yellow and green shirts.
The deal never came to fruition.
It was stopped at the last minute when the outcry from City supporters and other local people from various organised groups over BK8’s online marketing strategy of using scantily-clad young ladies to promote their business reached a very loud crescendo indeed.
I can certainly understand why many people would have been offended by the idea of NCFC being seen to support this type of thing. I wasn’t exactly offended, more bitterly disappointed at the time as I commented on Sam Seaman‘s article back in June 2021 [hi Sam!]:
“Didn’t they realise what the reaction to this was likely to be? Credibility destroyed I’m afraid. I’m not going into the rights & wrongs of pc, wokeism or whatever you want to call it these days and I’m not easily offended but there’s a limit, even for a traditional old geezer like me. I certainly won’t be buying anything with this company’s logo on it.”
While I understand that a couple of senior City moneymen heavily backed BK8 “because they offered considerably more [money] than anybody else” I remain quietly pleased to this day that the deal never got off the ground.
Our friends at Aston Villa now have BK8 on board whether they like it or not as the Asian-based, Malta-registered company finally gets its feet through the PL door and the Aston Villa Supporters’ Trust are about as happy as most of us were. Not.
“The BK8 agreement is a cynical last-minute attempt to scoop the financial gains ahead of the voluntary ban on front-of-shirt gambling sponsors. Fans, players, and club staff alike want Villa to be as successful as possible, [but] that should not come at the expense of exposing fans to the exploitative practices of gambling operators”.
And for me, I’ve just experienced one of my “I’m glad it’s not us” moments, which does nothing to solve any problems but does make me feel a little bit better that, in the end, we didn’t succumb to the advances of BK8 and its like.
***I know Arfur Daley wasn’t really Flash Harry’s half-brother, but it was a line I would have squeezed into Minder somehow, maybe a bit like Messrs Perry and Croft did with Arthur Lowe when Captain Mainwaring met his brother, George.
I know this song is pure kitsch, but what the heck:
Tories, interesting word that, did you know it’s roots are 17th century Irish from the word toraidhe.
Back then it was a reference to a political highwayman , a rather nice way of describing what we still have today.
Hi Bernie
Yeah I did know that, believe it or not.
The word took on the wider meaning of *Rebel* in Southern Ireland, which caused a few problems in translation in Co. Cork for a while in the last century.
Cork’s GAA Hurling team is nicknamed *the Rebels*, but it doesn’t these days refer to any form of political stance, let alone membership of the UK Conservative Party 🙂
Cheers
Good info, Bernie, although you’ve stress-tested the word filter on MFW to its limits.
I need to review the words I’ve included in the banned list. Could have sworn the T word was one of them 😀
I think it pitches up somewhere between *Ipswich* and *Wolves* mate.
Marty, I grew up in the 40s & 50s and when I won a school scholarship my poor old widowed mum had to buy me the full school kit including sports shirts, one yellow and green hoops for the school colours and one house colour in blue. My older brother had a green one he no longer needed, so she tried to dye it, and it came out a greenie blue, unique but acceptable. They were also well big to last me. I played both rugby and soccer for the school, so they got well used and wash-faded over the years as well as repaired. So clothes had to last and that ethos has stayed with me, as a life long Canary supporter I‘ve probably bought three City shirts, it would have been one but my son shamed me into buying an occasional updated version. I do have a couple of Canary hats and scarves but I doubt I‘ll ever buy any other club regalia unless I get a nostalgic urge and visit the market stall.
Hi Cutty
There’s something special about us scholarship kids, you know 🙂
Our Houses were Penns as in William and three Archbishops: Caswell, Lambourne and Swallows.
I was a Caswell for my sins so there was a green shirt made of sandpaper with a button-up collar and a green athletics vest plus a white School shirt and a Millwall blue one. It was the cricket gear that was really expensive though.
Everything had to come from Henry Taylor in Walthamstow, the only recognised supplier of both uniform and schools kit. Nice backhanders all round with tthat deal!
My third year [1971] saw the influx of modern round collared thin cotton shirts when some of the parents kicked off about how much easier they were to wash. Even kids who would never be anywhere near either cricket or football XIs would still be made to buy the kit which was a rip-off but most of the parents could easily afford it.
The Bowles family stand on the market is well worth a visit and I can’t believe I managed to donate a few items but not actually buy anything!
It’s probably about time I went to see Jacob and see what he’s got in stock 🙂
Cheers
Marty, there was a shop in Norwich at St Andrews who ran the same scam. They also did the officer’s kit for the Arm Forces. My mum annoyed them by rejecting the stuff she knew she’d could buy cheaper else where such as the cricket whites so some of my gear never matched most of the other lads. But I was a tough lad so no one took the mick. I bet some of the smart phones that some of the kids have these days cost more than all of our kit.
I can’t remember if Taylors dealt with HM forces. It wouldn’t have surprised me if they had though – it really was lke an all-male version of Grace Brothers and quite intimidating for young lads whose only ambition in 1970n was to grow their hair and wear looh pants with a cheesecloth top!
There were all sorts of uniform short cuts as you say, of course.
There were four scholarship kids in my intake.
It could be coincidence that the two who stuck it out to the bitter end were me and this other kid called Martin and we were the day pupils and not the boarders.
Tom Brown? Not really.
Elements of Tom Brown? Certainly if you didn’t quickly work out where to show respect and although it’s a huge cliche, being good at games really did help you get along on both the physical and cerebral plains.
Hi Martin,
19th November 1994 was my wife’s 38th birthday and the very first National Lottery draw in the UK.
That’s unless you count Queen Elizabeth 1st 1567 attempt to get money to build a Navy to help exports to our European neighbours.
Bet365, owners of Stoke City and also known as Coates, ignited the Internet gambling boom or at least gave it a big kick-start, so how will this club cope when the ban comes into effect? That going to be a big loss of revenue with naming rights on the stadium but some crafty whizz will find a way round it.
Like your good self, gambling never got a hold, penny slots, ITV 6, I worked too hard to lose for my sheckles to lose it that gambling – it was for other enjoyments: Girls Cars and Drink.
I’ve seen too many gamblers in the RAF that didn’t know when to stop and their families trying to survive on the meagre amount that was left.
Anyway, it’s cricket at Headingly today – England win the toss and are bowling first.
Everything we do in life is, or can be considered, a gamble. Some pay off, others don’t, and if you believe in luck let’s hope City’s is about to turn for the better
Hi Alex
Another Queen who loved to spend the peasants’ money, hey?
I bet our Lizzo wouldn’t have sent Sir Francis off to fight the Spanish with a popgun and a bow and arrow!
I think it is seeing others suffer the effects of gambling that tend to put many people off it – yours in the RAF, mine in an actual betting shop but both the same.
Luck? Yes I believe in it a bit, but far more so fate.
Cheers
I was said when I see a bookmaker riding a bike I would have a bet or two. still to this day the money is in my pocket . I had a guy work for me painting, this was the days of wage packets weekly. Friday lunch and he was off to a bookies, come having lost lots of his wages, he had a wife and twin babies. I spoke a few times with him about it, he promised he would stop. yea like he did, so took the drastic action of not paying him, but taking it to his wife, so she could pay bill and feed them and Thier babies.. This carried on for a couple of years, I gave him any extra hours etc . Until he just left, lost touch with him, but I have never gambled on anything except an odd lotto ticket, and 5 bob on Vernon’s pools
Hi Lad
That’s a salutory tale if ever there was one.
You must have liked the bloke to do all that for him, even though he probably didn’t appreciate it [and that’s being polite] at the time.
I remember Vernons Pools from the 60s – from what I can recall they and Zetters were the less expensive version of Littlewood’s but I could be wrong.
Cheers
Sponsorship on shirts. On rare occasions I’ve almost approved, think both occasions were wba.
1. Sandwell
2. I have a memory of Health Council logo, but I’ll have to check.
Tother day in churchyard going home I saw lady with a T shirt advertising home care, I knew it was Ipswich and pure class one has to admit.
Hi Mike
Barca gave their shirt space to UNICEF for a while and many clubs give the RBL Poppy Appeal a hefty nod on their nearest fixture to November 11.
You are 100% right about Sandwell. I Googled it to be sure and the Baggies are heavily involved there, not least with players visiting youngsters in the Sandwell Group’s hospitals at Xmas.
Cheers