It’s not unusual for a collective groan to greet the fourth official’s board that signals the minimum amount of added time. If you’re winning there are usually too many minutes. If you’re losing there are never enough.
But yesterday, in the hell hole that was Carrow Road, the groan was because, despite City being 3-0 down, six minutes was far too many.
Those of us still left in the ground just wanted the purgatory to end; to be put out of our interminable misery.
How sad is that?
For many, the pain of watching the team they love endure such an awful afternoon was too much and they departed before the fourth official’s board was raised. Some even left at halftime. Others could see what was about to unfold and opted out of making the trip at all.
But those who inflicted that Sunday lunchtime public flogging on David Wagner should hang their heads in shame.
It was cruel. Heartless.
It was very clear from his post-match interview at the Stadium of Light that his race was run. He looked and sounded like a broken man who had no idea how to arrest this current malaise. But he’s also a decent man and should have been treated as such.
No way should he have been subjected to a Carrow Road that has simply had enough. But the four people with the ability to spare him from yesterday’s horror chose to sit on their hands and expose him to the lion’s den.
Whether that was through their own ineptitude, or if it was because they saw him as a human shield who would offer them a layer of protection from the inevitable venom I know not, but either way it was rotten.
And then for Stuart Webber to even not be present as the tragedy unfolded was another couldn’t-make-it-up fact to add to a growing number.
Where’s the decisiveness? The accountability? The bravery?
It looks and feels like a club that’s rotten to the core. Problems at every turn. And the fact they were quite happy to watch Wagner crumble in such a brutal way adds another layer to their current failings.
I don’t intend to dissect too much what went wrong on the pitch yesterday because it was obvious to all. Players who are bereft of any confidence, playing in a structure that is evidently unfit for purpose, and who appeared either unable or unwilling (or both) to produce a performance that could save their head coach.
Even against ten men, they didn’t have it in them to find a spark that could have brought them and the crowd to life. At 3-0 down there appeared no urgency and no desire, and they, like the board, appeared paralyzed by the fear of making progressive decisions.
It was a painful watch from minute seven to 96.
It is worth noting the contributions of Jaden Warner and Kellen Fisher, both of whom may just be the future, but there was precious little to be enthused about and it’s tough to watch Gabriel Sara and Jon Rowe get dragged down into the mediocrity that surrounds them.
For all of the obvious failings of the head coach, you expect professional pride to play a part in this group but there appears to be none. Experienced internationals, of which there are a few, who regularly play like Sunday morning footballers after a heavy Saturday night.
But the paucity on the pitch now feels little more than a by-product of the chaos off it.
So many issues. All of them badly managed. Sometimes it’s erratic, illogical decision-making, sometimes inaction, and sometimes appointing the wrong person.
The length of time it took to appoint Ben Knapper when Stuart Webber announced his intention to leave in March was far too lengthy, but even when he finally arrives (November 27), the latest is that Webber now intends to work out his full notice period – to March 2024!
He couldn’t be arsed to be there yesterday to take some of the heat off his mate but it seems he’s quite happy to hang around collecting his full salary for another five months.
Let’s hope that particular rumour, which circulated yesterday, proves to be wrong.
Quite where the club goes from here I don’t know. The perpetual holding pattern in which we find ourselves is now extended by another three weeks until Knapper starts so, presumably, he can be the one to pull the trigger on Wagner.
But there are two games to be played before then – another six points to be waved away as we slide unceremoniously but inevitably into the relegation zone. Because I’m afraid to say that those who don’t recognise this as a relegation battle are deluded.
This smacks of Glenn Roeder’s Class of 2008-09 and that sense of sleepwalking to relegation, while the board tells itself that we, as a club, are too good to go down.
Well, I’m afraid the back-slapping from up on high over us being a well-run club is now nothing more than a joke. We’re not well run.
Well-run clubs don’t purport to be self-funding and then end up with debts of £77million.
Well-run clubs are not done so at the behest of two married couples, with a potential US-based saviour being made to serve an apprenticeship before being permitted a meaningful say.
And well-run clubs don’t hang beleaguered head coaches out to dry.
The level of chaos at every turn is staggering, but still those in power sit tight and say nothing
And you wait… when they do, it will end up being the fault of the supporters.
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Monday is our Martin’s music day. So…
Yet again Gary – your words are absolutely spot on. This situation has been brewing for a long long time. Be careful what you wish for eh? …………
Be careful what you wish for…yes…
But surely anything; almost anything has to be better than what the supporters are paying for at the moment…
O T B C
Absolutely agree with every word Gary , a brilliant assessment of this unfolding disaster . The club will be relegated and facing financial Armageddon unless there is a quick change of the top 4 ! Thanks Delia !
I was there yesterday and did not join in with the Wagner out chants for the same reasons as you outlined . However I certainly didn’t hold back regarding the other 4 !
Unforgivable cowardice and incompetence.
There’s too many people in the club paid too much money to do the right thing and fall on their swords.
Whilst I’m in agreement with the tone of your article Gary, I’m not having this “poor old DW, hung out to dry, human shield” rubbish! This is the guy who only got the job as a favour, failed miserably last season, bought in the journeymen who are part of the problem, sticks rigidly to a Plan A that hasn’t worked for 11 games and has been sussed by everyone, who still believes he can blag his way through another week of failure. He certainly hasn’t acted as if he’s being forced to shield those above him, indeed he is part of the gang of 5 who continue to band together in an alternative reality where they think this is all fine. If it was really that bad, he could always resign, but of course he loves the club that much that he’ll want to take his huge severance pay and shaft the club a little more! I hope he does stay for Cardiff (A) as I know for sure that those of us that travel to Away games will give him and his rabble of a team a far stronger sense of how much they’ve failed, rather than the pitiful ‘mild toxicity’ dished out by an increasingly apathetic Carrow Road audience. Nothing will change by us feeling sorry for the people at the top of our club, too many people continue to make apologies for failure. Not in my name please!
Fair comment, mate. I get that.
Do you think he brought in the journey men? We didn’t have no money, now we have more players not good enough on contracts. Managers don’t ask for reject players do they .
As usual, absolutely bang on Gary. What we are watching on the pitch is an inevitable result of what is going on (or not) off the pitch-none of this is a surprise.
A brilliant summary of the torpor and stupidity abating from the top of the club.
The game itself was over as a contest with a quarter of an hour.
Not for the first or, regretably, the last time this season the back line and midfield did passable impersonations of Larry Grayson. Unlike Everard however, they didn’t shut the door.
Someone should tell what we laughably describe as a midfield that dangling a leg, hokey-cokey style does not constitute a tackle. Pathetic.
In common with the last half dozen or so games, the lack of proper effort, concentration and due care and attention was palpable. I’ve seldom seen a football team look so lazy and disinterested. Shameful.
Hwang ran around a lot, Warner was exposed by his allegedly experienced co-defenders and Placheta showed pace and endeavour when introduced. As for the rest….
As Gary points out, the failure to perform their duty as club owners was a cynical and calculated ploy to expose Wagner to the inevitable ire and deflect it from themselves. In truth, a cowardly act inflicted on a decent man who as usual hasn’t been given any financial backing. True, his deficiencies are laid bare but really, did anyone expect any other outcome?
Cruel, cold and cowardly. The mask slips once again and we see the true measure of these people.
Clearly the powers that be are waiting for Knapper to take his position so that he can put Wagner out of his misery, so unless something unforseen happens we can expect more of this at Cardiff. Disrespectful and a dereliction of duty.
In a relegation battle we simply can’t afford to let points go wasting. Even a hard fought draw would be a straw to cling to. Yet, as ever, the cadaverous pace these individuals move at is harming the club they allegedly love.
For 18 months or more the shadow of Attanasio has hovered behind the scenes. Will he? Won’t he? Who knows?
What would be nice is if he came out and spoke to stakeholders to allay the growing fears that the club is dieing on its arse.
The 3 year, 7 year or maybe never crap from Delia Smith and her mate Humphrey with regard to a possible change of direction is a non-starter. Regardless of whether the support will stomach such nonsense, the wolf will be through the door long before that timescale.
The very idea that Delia Smith could turn around and tell Attanasio “no deal” is cretinous. Only an idiot would believe it possible. For a start, just how in the hell does she intend to pay Attanasio off if she changes her mind? Get real woman.
Enough of this circus. The club is a laughing stock, mired in its own cosy twee mentality, locked in a spiral of failure where results don’t matter and accountability is a dirty word.
As far as Delia Smith and her sycophants are concerned, the third division is just fine as long as the club makes the right noises and continues on under her “custody”. The Webbers, both of them, continue to fail abysmally in their jobs while taking huge sums out of the coffers as a reward for that failure. Look at the accounts for God’s sake. All under the Webbers’ watch.
As I say. ENOUGH.
brilliant post as usual Chris!
Gary,
They’re not listening to you or the fans.
I agree the top tier are watching the club crumble but the players are complicit in this. They are professional footballers yet they run around like headless chickens and draw there hefty wages at the same time. They are all insulting the fans in the way they behave.
A Manager who just walks down the tunnel at the end, not joining his players on the pitch. And as for the Americans, don’t hold your breath for a rescue package. They are successful business men and they know a bad deal when they see it.
I’ve been watching football for over 70 years and for the first time ever I left a game before the final whistle where? Carrow Road.
I’ve followed City for 17 years now and I’m seriously thinking of not renewing my season ticket at the end of the year. Yes, that’s how bad it’s become.
They should all be looking in the mirror this morning and thinking what can I contribute to my business today?
Can’t argue with any of that. It can’t be to the benefit of the club to have the Sporting Director’s wife on the Executive side of the organisation.
How can the board be expected to make a professional decision in these circumstances.
As I’ve said for decades under the Smith regime, Norwich City is a Professional Football Club run by amateurs, therefore the latest events should surprise nobody.
Again Mr G another depressing debacle you have to write about..well done it hurts had to do this during Worthy and the Rodents end time.
To think we rushed home yesterday from watching my lads U18 cup game, playing a side 3 leagues above, went 2-0 down but came back to just be pipped 5-4. Talk about fight, and passion plus refusing to admit defeat. all there to see. These things I half hoped would see at Carrow Rd Talk about personal pride my boy saved at least another 4 nailed-on goals. yep, he let 5 in but 4 of those he was left wide open as they pushed and pushed.
Got home turned on the streaming box and saw City already 2-0 down, 25 mins gone. I am glad Blackburn took the foot off the gas, or we could have been looking at another Plymouth or a worse scoreline.
Why on earth did we get Duffy he looks bound for L2, cannot judge Batth as he looks destined not to play. Bring back our two CDs, who are out on loan, bugger what the other clubs say or do, they are our players under contract.
All week I was hoping Sorenson would be close enough to be given a start, but then to read another operation needed, Gibbs is our only other player who can play DM But all a bit immaterial now .
Wagner is lost (not surprising why I didn’t want him in first place) he is a decent chap, but no coach or manager deserves to be hung out like that. A whipping boy yet again put out there so the shit show of a board can hide behind, repeating what they have done before.
As to Webber should not bother to come back only to clear his desk, if he has not got a garden to tend to I freakin have. take your Mrs along with you. Hand over to Adams to see the time before Knapper decides to turn up. Someone has to make a ruddy decision about Wagner TODAY. bring Nigel Pearson in on a Match by Match agreement. He is someone who plays the way this shower of a squad knows best. He won’t take any bullsh1t either.
Delia & Michael. you have had a go at running this club, I said you should have gone after Worthington before it turned really toxic. Yet here you still running the club, now further into the ground. The edge of the cliff you both have taken this club to is crumbling faster than Hemsby, I can see how you say you have the best interests of the club at heart. But that heart is so self-centred it is unbelievable. The ideas and ideals you have are more than amateurish as the last 27 years prove.
If you both have the interests of the club at your centre, then do the right thing and retire bring in the Norfolk group now, I am sure they don’t need any help or their hands held especiall by thoise who have failed
Well said Gary.
Bridget on Canarycall yesterday is my new hero.
The main problem, as Chris pointed out, is Delia appears to be so far out of it things will just deteriorate until either Attanasio or the receivers force the issue.
In the meantime the best thing we can do is give Carrow Road a miss, if only for the sake of our own sanity.
Hi Gary
There’s a good read in the Yorkshire Post over the weekend about the 49ers recruitment of a Sporting Director it basically saying they aren’t on a hurry and are taking there time to assess who’s available.
It also says that Webber being a fully announced Leeds Supporter is a highly regarded candidate that’s wanted by numerous clubs.
It again states that Webber gas let it be known he will be taking a short sabbatical to achieve his ambition to climb Everest so he’s not taking anything away from his new employers unlike he’s doing at city.
Chris Sutton said Neil Adams was the interim Sporting Director so has Webber started his sabbatical while getting paid by city ??
Another paper has suggested that Knapper will return to Arse-nal for his first big appointment and bring in Arteta assistant manager as City’s head coach who’s a 28year old Spaniard, previous experience is U17 coach at Ath Madrid and Juve before stepping up at Arse-nal.
Will it be a good appointment if it happens only time will tell but hardened pro’s just might not like it or could we see a more youthful team take to the grass.
Where’s the Happy Clappers Brigade when you need one ??
Draw a pentangle on the floor, chant delia delia delia while clapping and dribbling, staring into mirror and lo! A happy clapper will appear at the window asking to be let in.
Hi Chris
It just might work but chanting Delia 3 times and my wife would think I belong in a mental health hospital.
Those that supposedly in the know or thing they are in the know have hunkered down waiting for the good times to start again if they ever really have under this regime.
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I really can’t see farke ever working with Webber again can you.
I’d like to!
Hi Gary, nailed it!
I am sorry to say this, Norwich fans need to be held accountable for the mediocrity in the club as well.
The flack needs to be aimed at the hierarchy.
As long as we don’t hold them to account at Carrow Road we keep this endless cycle of escape goats going through the revolving door of the Managers office.
No Delia /Micheal out?
No Webber out?
These are the puppet masters who need to be ousted. As long as the happy clappers continue to stay silent, the club will continue in this downward spiral.
It is embarrassing to see the complete ineptitude within this business, let alone the performances on the football pitch!
The Stowmarket duo should be ashamed!
You’ve said it all, Gary. I would just add that criticism of Wagner should be based solely on his lack of tactical acumen and his inability to get the best out of his squad. Personal attacks on him are below the belt. Frankly, we would need a manager with the combined talents of Matt Busby, Bill Shankly and Alex Ferguson to get this squad into promotion-chasing form. I am not excusing Wagner entirely, but the absence of Hanley, Sorenson, Sargent and Barnes left him with very limited options. Unless Webber has a valid reason for not being at Carrow Road on Sunday, he should be asked to clear out his desk and go immediately.. Just pay him out his contract and say good riddance.
I agree. In addition to the injuries,we have of course also lost Pukki, Aarons, Omobamedele, Todd and Dowell. The squad is considerably weaker than last season. Failure to reach last season’s “heights” of 13th can’t all be down to the manager.
As the saying goes Gary, too many cooks spoil the broth .
Afternoon all. And it’s a bleak one…..
I agree with everything said on here. Think it’s time for a total overall of the board. Also, I want Wagner out as much as the next Norwich supporter but no-one here has suggested a suitable candidate to replace him (apart from Nigel Pearson).
I say go down the Ipswich and Leicester route and go for a young & up n coming coach (didn’t David McNally do that 8 years ago and look what happened ??). Aren’t the aforementioned two clubs currently top of the table ?? And looks who’s 3rd ??
I don’t think I need to say anymore do I ???
OTBC
NMTD
Knapper’s possible choice from FLW
There’s every chance that Knapper will want to put his own stamp on things when he arrives, and if results keep on trending downwards in the next week or two then Wagner could realistically be sacked, leaving the current Arsenal man with a big decision to make.
If that is to be the case, then there is one individual that Knapper would be foolish to not consider and that is Carlos Cuesta – Mikel Arteta’s current assistant and someone that Norwich’s new sporting director will know very well.
Who is Carlos Cuesta ?
Cuesta is probably not known to the average football fan, but at the age of 28 he is well and truly making himself in the world of coaching.
The Spaniard did not have a playing career and at the age of just 18 he decided to start studying football management, and he would soon become the assistant manager of Atletico Madrid’s under-17s team in 2014.
His talents were not going unnoticed and in 2018 he made the jump to Juventus, becoming assistant of the Italian giants’ under-17’s for two years.
Mikel Arteta eventually came calling though and in 2020, Cuesta made the move to England to become his assistant at Arsenal after the Gunners decided to gamble on their former midfielder as manager.
Cuesta’s three years in North London have gone pretty well so far and at times he has been described as one of the club’s secret weapons – at some point though like Arteta did, he will fancy himself to branch out on his own.
The perfect opportunity could come up in the form of Norwich, as there is bound to be a vacancy if results continue to go the way they are doing, and Knapper’s arrival there in the near future could see him approached.
As a young coach with the influence of Arteta in him, Norwich would likely try to play stylish football under Cuesta, and even though he’s only 28 years of age, there should be no qualms in giving someone like him the opportunity to start his managerial career.
Great shout Alex! However I am sure Carlos is used to working in a proffesional well run business?
Getting him to work with this lot is like asking him to work in a pub with no beer to sell, and the delivery truck won’t be available for the foreseeable future!
You seriously have to question who would want to take the job on?
AlexB….He looks to me a good choice, I have one lingering little doubt he is younger than a lot of our squad. Also he has not had a playing career, that lack of experience may not do down well with the older pro’s
I remember Bassong would not play under Neil Adams, because of that lack. I didn’t agree with Bassong’s action or words, I thought Adams did the right thing and shipping him out to Watford. Why I said Pearson be stronger with some of this squad, not afrais to tell them a few home truths about their performences
I think Pearson is a good choice for a short term appointment but did read he is going into Hospital for surgery so could be out for a while.
My view is that we are in deep doo-doo, and I can’t see us getting many more points this year.
I can’t see us going down this year, simply because there are other teams in the league who are worse than us.
Next (calendar) year will be different, we shall have players back from injury, and whilst I’d like to see us make a late push for the play-offs, realistically I think we’ll end up mid-table.
Should Wagner go? I’d say no. Two reasons: not sure who could get the squad on Sunday to perform better, unless there is someone out there who can coach people on accurate passing. Secondly, who would we get better in his place. At mid-season, the market is mainly awash with those who have been sacked for poor performance.
Re: the Sporting Director situation, we are where we are. I hope Knapper’s contract doesn’t have the ridiculous exit clauses. If I were Knapper, I’d just have Webber there for a couple of days, to do a handover, and then put him on gardening leave so he can focus on his bucket list
Delia & Michael have contributed nothing tangible apart from buying the club for a song at a vulnerable time and circumventing Geoffrey Watling’s wise rule that no one person would run the club. We’ve wasted 28 years standing still/ebbing backwards while the rest of football has f*cked off into the distance. League One here we come.
From what I’ve read Wagner’s 12 month rolling contract ends on January 6th. If we sacked him now we would have a caretaker here which would be someone from within the club so no immediate change in tactics. We certainly need someone who can make better selection decisions. We ended the game yesterday with 4 wingers,1 full back, playing as a winger and a striker who didn’t want to venture into the box.
When you look at Byram, Tzolis and Rashica you wonder what it is about our club that brings about such bad performances. Warner looked good yesterday but in a few weeks he’ll be making mistakes like everyone else. Placheta was very good and deserves another start, my hope is that we can pick up some points for the remainder of the year, while choosing a new manager so we can push on on January.
I haven’t had an opportunity to watch many games this season due to my work.
I was shocked by how open we were and the lack of a ball winning defensive midfielder yesterday. We are too easy to play against. Blackburn didn’t have to move out of second gear.
Why isn’t Batth playing? Why did we not buy a ball winning midfielder in the summer? Why isn’t Sara playing behind the striker?
Our latest downward trajectory started when we sacked the manager after Brentford away win in the Prem.
I have no idea why we took out a loan against the parachute payments and the recruitment has been poor over the last 3 years.
Sadly I feel that things will get worse before they get better.
I stayed till the end to miss the traffic.
Wagner has the option to resign. If he’s hanging around for a pay out, my sympathies are limited.
The club is being run like an old person’s jam making club, They need, but won’t go near, an Adam Bowkett/David McNally type partnership to take the club by the scruff of the neck and stop the nicey, nicey nonsense.
Stayed at the end to miss the traffic. That has got to be the quote of the decade. Brilliant 👍👍
Scouting trip from Insidefubol
Norwich City sporting director Stuart Webber has been in Brazil, which is the reason he was not at Carrow Road on Sunday, according to the Press Association.
Confirmed by Nick Mashiter – some are suggesting that he was there for the Sao Paolo Grand Prix; others that he was hooking up with the South American scouting team. Take your pick.
Maybe a bit of both with a mountain or two thrown in.
A practice climb up Sugar Loaf mountain?
Maybe hoping for some inspiration from the Christ the Redeemer statue.
Why would he be scouting anyone , its not his job or choice anymore. They had to get his ego away from the club more like.
My Guess he was there for the Grand Prix, using club money for the trip on the basis he was going out to see the scouting team? Most sporting directors pick up the phone or write an email as they are so busy normally?
Unless of course he finally relises how bad the recruitment is and has to go and personally oversee it? Nah!
I think Wagner should be given until Christmas to turn things around.
Just kidding – in my 50 years of supporting City, I have never seen the supporters as unified about a manager as right now. I have not heard a single person come out to say DW should stay, not a single supporter.
And yet, I have zero faith the Board will act this week – zero. Based on Zoe’s program notes, they indeed are in a parallel universe where it’s okay to win one game in eleven, and that loyalty and consistency are more important than results.
As a shareholder since the early 90s, the Board are now derelict in their duties.
Kevin – as a shareholder are you going to the AGM? If so please give them hell on behalf of the entire fan base.
Hiya Gaz
Agree with everything you said, its a low point of 48 years – if I was in the car would have walked after 15 mins! I’ve never left a game early ever.
Webber is making us the laughing stock along with Delia. Will not blame Wagner – he was only given half the tools needed for the job in hand. Like giving me a rolls of felt with no blowlamp to stick it down IMPOSSIBLE.
I’m really debating if nothing changes before QPR, am I going to bother. The whole club stinks and needs a total reboot 🥾🥾🥾other wise it league one for us!
Brilliant article Gary.
Some excellent replies as well.
I have very little to add other than the fact that Delia’s treatment of David Wagner is abhorrent.
I think he is a decent man being used as a human shield by Delia’s cowardly behaviour.
I can’t believe she was pi**ing it up in The Lion and Castle after the game🤬
Surely Sunday’s game required a board meeting. Not having another ” Where are yah” no where the bl**dy hell are you.
I’ve said before our owners are doing a passable impression of Emporer Nero.
Our Board has wasted 4-5 chances of securing a EPL like a Brighton or a Brentford.
Why? Because other clubs have used their championship wins wisely.
Not us, no we are “all right jack” little old Norwich, we don’t need this filthy money coming into football. It’s a joke.
So Delia thinks she is in a position to judge billionaire Mark Attanasio 😱
It’s like me say I’m hanging on here at Liverpool just to bed in Jürgen Klopp in all those years ago.
Same got for Stuart Webber. If we are hanging on all this time for Ben Knapper surely he doesn’t need his hand held.
I know some supporters have no sympathy with Wagner and I see that, if I was still going to away games I would probably do the same, but he is a decent man who like many of his contemporaries has found football has grown beyond his abilities.
I think the Norwich City fans need to draw up a Power of Attorney that has immediate effect for D+M. Just because you can put clothes on and sit in a seat watching poor quality daytime entertainment does not mean you are any longer capable of making independent decisions.
So I didn’t go to watch my beloved #ncfc yesterday. I figured cleaning my cars was a better way to spend my time (and money). I didn’t even check-in on Sky until 70mins of the game had passed – we we’re 0-3 down, against 10 men. It wasn’t a surprise.
Back in the day I’d like to think I was one of the proponents of #chaseout via the NMTD fanzine. I cannot fathom how the supporter base, apart from a notable small minority, has tolerated Delia Smith and her husband for so long. Brainwashed by the myth that she ‘saved’ the club, and fear of change is the only way I can reconcile it. The warning came in an interview in The Times that showed the total lack of ambition and the ‘little Norwich’ mentality.
Apathy more than anger has now set in, and in a way, thats even more dangerous for the club.
But I am now not a lone voice in the stands (or not as the case may be). Supporters have finally had enough, and I for one can’t wait for change. Real change.
She will leave the club soon (but not soon enough), and it will be financially a lot worse off that it was when she took over 27 years ago. The culture she has allowed to develop throughout the club stinks.
Now it has to be #deliaout and hope she takes the rest of board, management and staff with her. Better or worse (it will be worse – at least initially) – we need a fresh start.
There was once talk of a commemorative statue. I guess that would at least give us something to chuck our rotten tomatoes at occasionally.
Totally agree. I count a good many City fans amongst my friends and acquaintances, from all ages backgrounds and genders. I know of only 1 or 2 who have anything positive to say about delia Smith and the awful image that surrounds the club nationally.
Perhaps another fanzine would hammer the message across that we want the club back in mainstream football.
One can only dream of the NCFC performances c1971-1995. I’m afraid that what has followed since #chaseout (whatever that is) has been terrible by comparison.